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Seneca · Letters to Lucilius

Letter 9: On philosophy and friendship

From the letter

There is this difference between ourselves and the other school: our ideal wise man feels his troubles, but overcomes them; their wise man does not even feel them.

Richard Mott Gummere, 1917–1925 · Letter 9, §3

In this sense the wise man is self-sufficient, that he can do without friends, not that he desires to do without them.

Richard Mott Gummere, 1917–1925 · Letter 9, §5

Hecato, says: “I can show you a philtre, compounded without drugs, herbs, or any witch’s incantation: ‘If you would be loved, love.’”

Richard Mott Gummere, 1917–1925 · Letter 9, §6

He who begins to be your friend because it pays will also cease because it pays.

Richard Mott Gummere, 1917–1925 · Letter 9, §9

But we must mark with care what this sentence signifies and how far it applies; the wise man is sufficient unto himself for a happy existence, but not for mere existence.

Richard Mott Gummere, 1917–1925 · Letter 9, §13

Coverage

Our editions hold 30 letters of 124 in Richard Mott Gummere’s translation (1917–1925); 29 of them have a page here, those that Joseph Baillard’s French translation (1861) also contains.

The editions we cite

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